Martinex1: Following a great conversation yesterday about DC and their many books, I thought we could share some thoughts today in categories outside of comics. So here are a couple of questions about food and television for you today.
QUESTION 1: What toppings do you order for your pizza?
QUESTION 2: Would the following TV programs (and shows of their ilk) be able to be made in any era other than the Bronze Age of television?
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1) I rarely eat pizza but ham & pineapple is a nice topping.
2) I don't understand the question. I'll just say that 'BJ & The Bear' was the only one of those four shows that was broadcast over here in the UK - I don't know the other three.
Sorry about that ... to clarify question 2 ... it seems to me that the 70s and early 80s (essentially the Bronze Age) was unique for a style of U.S. television as well.
So as examples we have "BJ and the Bear", the story of a man and his chimp traversing the states in his big rig helping out the locals. "The Ted Knight Show" was a sitcom about an escort service and essentially Ted was a pimp. "Flying High" a show about stewardesses and guest stars that was in a similar vein as "The Love Boat". And a high concept show "Turnabout" which was a spousal "Freaky Friday" of sorts.
I contend there was something unique about that era that spawned the style of entertainment. But I am not certain exactly what the catalyst was and if those types of shows (although I am sure there can be examples) can exist well outside their era. For example the high concept /magical sitcoms really nosedived as decades progressed. What do you think?
The examples I picked are maybe less known and I found them amusing, but more popular series - Dukes of Hazard, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, dream of Jeannie etc - may represent more clearly.
On question 1, I'm also curious New York style, Chicago Style, thick, stuffed, favorite pizza place, etc.
1. I'm a traditionalist; pepperoni and cheese does it for me. And a thin, crispy crust ( although deep dish is fine too). Favorite place is a local restaurant called "Rocky's". Fantastic pizza, and pasta, and everything else there is good too.
2. It's hard to see those shows being made today. There was a lot of entertaining fun there, with just a hunt of cheesiness. So I don't know if today's audiences would go for that approach. Then again, the abundant 'reality shows' popular today are much,much cheesier than anything we watched, so it might be worth a shot...
I can handle almost anything on a pizza (even anchovies) except pineapple. I like pineapple in general, just not on pizza. Normally I go for some form of meat (pepperoni, ham, bacon) plus mushrooms and maybe green/red peppers.
Like Colin, the only one of those shows I've heard of is B.J. and the Bear, which was a very 70s show, I guess. But given the nostalgia for those times, I'm surprised nobody's turned it into a crappy movie. Wasn't there a spin-off of that show, all about Sheriff Lobo?
Ahh, Pizza. One of the four food groups, right? I like all types of pizza, but prefer "Detroit Style"! The end crust large and fluffy, rest of the crust medium thickness, ton of cheese. I usually like mine with pepperoni and Italian sausage.
There was something about that age that cannot be repeated. Try to do All In The Family and see what happens.
Can’t comment on the TV shows as I never saw them and actually did not watch TV from about 1979 – 1989.
I can say that, for those who’ve never traveled abroad, continental Europe does not automatically put tomato paste and cheese on their pizzas. I enjoyed many a ham or artichoke pizza with a béchamel sauce. So picking a fav topping is really tuff.
(OK – my French wife and I dig Giordano’s spinach-and-cheese deep dish. There. I said it. We just don’t like to admit to enjoying food from a chain, LOL!)
I can comment on anchovies. I eat an occasional lunch at the Boston Fish Market near Chicago’s O’Hare Airport. The market has a smallish restaurant stuck on the front of a warehouse through which most of the fresh seafood for Chicago-land flows. One day I’m eating the greek salad and just enjoying the heck out of these little fish filets. I asked Chef Louise what they were and he said, “Anchovies! They were caught fresh out of the Mediterranean Sea less than 24 hours ago!” Folks – listen up! Those salty, oily, chewy, fishy anchovy filets you get out of the can/jar here have nothing (!) in common with a fresh one. I would indeed put a fresh anchovy on a nice, thin crust tomato and cheese pizza. (No offence intended if you enjoy the salty, oily, chewy, fishy ones from a jar!)
Firstly, pizza. When I was in school, late 80s, my roommate's company was working for a local pizza company. He was trying to develop software that would link your phone number with your address and your last order. For about a month, he was on site from midnight to 2am trying to get everything set up at the main restaurant. 2 or three times a week, the owner would make him a giant deep dish super supreme. Roughly every ingredient in the place!!! He's show up about 2:30 with this monster of a pizza!!! Good times.... good times. Ain't we lucky we got 'em.
With the TV shows, I think they were looking at what was "popular" and just making more of it. BJ and the Bear came out in 1979. Smokey and the Bandit was 77, Every Which Way But Loose was 78. "Eddie" may have asked for too much money up and wouldn't budge on points so they ditched the orangutan and went with a chimp. Just extrapolating here...
(Watch out, you might get what you're after Cool babies, strange but not a stranger I'm an ordinary guy Burning down the house
Hold tight Wait 'til the party's over Hold tight We're in for nasty weather There has got to be a way Burning down the house
Here's your ticket pack your bags Time for jumpin' overboard The transportation is here Close enough but not too far, Maybe you know where you are Fightin' fire with fire
All wet, hey, you might need a raincoat Shakedown, dreams walking in broad daylight Three hundred sixty five degrees Burning down the house
It was once upon a place, Sometimes I listen to myself Gonna come in first place People on their way to work, Baby, what did you expect? Gonna burst into flame
Burning down the house
My house's out of the ordinary That's right Don't want to hurt nobody Some things sure can sweep me off my feet Burning down the house
No visible means of support And you have not seen nothin' yet Everything's stuck together And I don't know what you expect Staring into the TV set Fighting fire with fire).
PS: Polar bear walks into a bar. Tells the bartender, "Hey........
Mike W - I am with you on the pineapple. I don't like the acidity it adds to the pizza. And there was definitely a Sheriff Lobo spinoff.
Kilraven - I cannot say I ever had Detroit Pizza. I wil have to look for it the next time I am up north. And that is a great point about All in the Family.
CH47 -Giordano's is indeed good, but in Chicago I always preferred Home Run Inn. The old restaurant over on 31st Street with the mural of the dogs playing poker and a traditional cheese and sausage cannot be beat. I prefer 7-Up with my pizza and they always had it.
I just found out yesterday my wife likes anchovies. Had no idea. We've both held off on ordering them because we just assumed nobody else really likes anchovies
Regarding TV, I still feel that time period was much more creative and experimental. Maybe I am wrong and just nostalgic but despite more channels today, the fictional shows seem to have less range but are also much less campy.
1). I like bacon, beef, and mushrooms with BBQ sauce. 2). Even though these shows were on during my tv watching days, I don't remember ever seeing any of them.
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1) I rarely eat pizza but ham & pineapple is a nice topping.
2) I don't understand the question. I'll just say that 'BJ & The Bear' was the only one of those four shows that was broadcast over here in the UK - I don't know the other three.
Sorry about that ... to clarify question 2 ... it seems to me that the 70s and early 80s (essentially the Bronze Age) was unique for a style of U.S. television as well.
So as examples we have "BJ and the Bear", the story of a man and his chimp traversing the states in his big rig helping out the locals. "The Ted Knight Show" was a sitcom about an escort service and essentially Ted was a pimp. "Flying High" a show about stewardesses and guest stars that was in a similar vein as "The Love Boat". And a high concept show "Turnabout" which was a spousal "Freaky Friday" of sorts.
I contend there was something unique about that era that spawned the style of entertainment. But I am not certain exactly what the catalyst was and if those types of shows (although I am sure there can be examples) can exist well outside their era. For example the high concept /magical sitcoms really nosedived as decades progressed. What do you think?
The examples I picked are maybe less known and I found them amusing, but more popular series - Dukes of Hazard, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, dream of Jeannie etc - may represent more clearly.
On question 1, I'm also curious New York style, Chicago Style, thick, stuffed, favorite pizza place, etc.
Cheers!
1. I'm a traditionalist; pepperoni and cheese does it for me. And a thin, crispy crust ( although deep dish is fine too). Favorite place is a local restaurant called "Rocky's". Fantastic pizza, and pasta, and everything else there is good too.
2. It's hard to see those shows being made today. There was a lot of entertaining fun there, with just a hunt of cheesiness. So I don't know if today's audiences would go for that approach. Then again, the abundant 'reality shows' popular today are much,much cheesier than anything we watched, so it might be worth a shot...
I can handle almost anything on a pizza (even anchovies) except pineapple. I like pineapple in general, just not on pizza. Normally I go for some form of meat (pepperoni, ham, bacon) plus mushrooms and maybe green/red peppers.
Like Colin, the only one of those shows I've heard of is B.J. and the Bear, which was a very 70s show, I guess. But given the nostalgia for those times, I'm surprised nobody's turned it into a crappy movie. Wasn't there a spin-off of that show, all about Sheriff Lobo?
Ahh, Pizza. One of the four food groups, right?
I like all types of pizza, but prefer "Detroit Style"!
The end crust large and fluffy, rest of the crust medium thickness, ton of cheese.
I usually like mine with pepperoni and Italian sausage.
There was something about that age that cannot be repeated. Try to do All In The Family and see what happens.
Can’t comment on the TV shows as I never saw them and actually did not watch TV from about 1979 – 1989.
I can say that, for those who’ve never traveled abroad, continental Europe does not automatically put tomato paste and cheese on their pizzas. I enjoyed many a ham or artichoke pizza with a béchamel sauce. So picking a fav topping is really tuff.
(OK – my French wife and I dig Giordano’s spinach-and-cheese deep dish. There. I said it. We just don’t like to admit to enjoying food from a chain, LOL!)
I can comment on anchovies. I eat an occasional lunch at the Boston Fish Market near Chicago’s O’Hare Airport. The market has a smallish restaurant stuck on the front of a warehouse through which most of the fresh seafood for Chicago-land flows. One day I’m eating the greek salad and just enjoying the heck out of these little fish filets. I asked Chef Louise what they were and he said, “Anchovies! They were caught fresh out of the Mediterranean Sea less than 24 hours ago!” Folks – listen up! Those salty, oily, chewy, fishy anchovy filets you get out of the can/jar here have nothing (!) in common with a fresh one. I would indeed put a fresh anchovy on a nice, thin crust tomato and cheese pizza. (No offence intended if you enjoy the salty, oily, chewy, fishy ones from a jar!)
Firstly, pizza. When I was in school, late 80s, my roommate's company was working for a local pizza company. He was trying to develop software that would link your phone number with your address and your last order. For about a month, he was on site from midnight to 2am trying to get everything set up at the main restaurant. 2 or three times a week, the owner would make him a giant deep dish super supreme. Roughly every ingredient in the place!!! He's show up about 2:30 with this monster of a pizza!!! Good times.... good times. Ain't we lucky we got 'em.
With the TV shows, I think they were looking at what was "popular" and just making more of it. BJ and the Bear came out in 1979. Smokey and the Bandit was 77, Every Which Way But Loose was 78. "Eddie" may have asked for too much money up and wouldn't budge on points so they ditched the orangutan and went with a chimp. Just extrapolating here...
(Watch out, you might get what you're after
Cool babies, strange but not a stranger
I'm an ordinary guy
Burning down the house
Hold tight
Wait 'til the party's over
Hold tight
We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house
Here's your ticket pack your bags
Time for jumpin' overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far,
Maybe you know where you are
Fightin' fire with fire
All wet, hey, you might need a raincoat
Shakedown, dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hundred sixty five degrees
Burning down the house
It was once upon a place,
Sometimes I listen to myself
Gonna come in first place
People on their way to work,
Baby, what did you expect?
Gonna burst into flame
Burning down the house
My house's out of the ordinary
That's right
Don't want to hurt nobody
Some things sure can sweep me off my feet
Burning down the house
No visible means of support
And you have not seen nothin' yet
Everything's stuck together
And I don't know what you expect
Staring into the TV set
Fighting fire with fire).
PS: Polar bear walks into a bar. Tells the bartender, "Hey........
I'll take a beer."
Bartender says, "Sure, why the big pause?"
Polar bear looks down, "I was born with them!"
Mike W - I am with you on the pineapple. I don't like the acidity it adds to the pizza. And there was definitely a Sheriff Lobo spinoff.
Kilraven - I cannot say I ever had Detroit Pizza. I wil have to look for it the next time I am up north. And that is a great point about All in the Family.
CH47 -Giordano's is indeed good, but in Chicago I always preferred Home Run Inn. The old restaurant over on 31st Street with the mural of the dogs playing poker and a traditional cheese and sausage cannot be beat. I prefer 7-Up with my pizza and they always had it.
I just found out yesterday my wife likes anchovies. Had no idea. We've both held off on ordering them because we just assumed nobody else really likes anchovies
Regarding TV, I still feel that time period was much more creative and experimental. Maybe I am wrong and just nostalgic but despite more channels today, the fictional shows seem to have less range but are also much less campy.
1). I like bacon, beef, and mushrooms with BBQ sauce.
2). Even though these shows were on during my tv watching days, I don't remember ever seeing any of them.
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