Redartz: Greetings and salutations, everyone! It's storytime again at the ol' BitBA, and in this installment we are discussing storage issues (or issues that you stored, whatever). Collecting anything is a fun and rewarding hobby, but one challenge is finding a way to store and preserve your treasures. Comic books, particularly, can get rather bulky when you are talking about hundreds or even thousands of individual items. Then there is the question of preserving them; paper memorabilia are notoriously vulnerable to light, moisture, insect damage, and other threats. So what can we do to keep our comics safe, sound, and convenient to read?
The first line of protection has traditionally been "bags and boards". An acid-free board inserted behind your comic, in a protective comic bag or sleeve helps keep the book flat and guards against dirt and moisture. And most comic aficionados are familiar with boxes, long and short, sized to fit comic books. You can generally fit between 100 ( in a short) to 250 (in a long) comics in such boxes. Here we have two kinds; the standard and the stackable pull-out box...
Of course, a full box of comics gets rather heavy. Also, the standard boxes (with a fitted top) become a nuisance when stacked, if you're trying to pull a particular comic to enjoy. And pull-out boxes, while nice, are a problem to stack as well, as you need to support the removable section.
For many years I avoided boxes; I stacked my books on a set of metal shelving. I kept it to stacks of about 50 books, and would periodically turn the stacks over to help prevent permanent curling and spine roll. In this photo, you get a glimpse inside my college apartment with those shelves visible. Those shelves were fairly sturdy, and inexpensive, but could wobble a bit. And at the time, I had close to 10,000 comics so turning those stacks could be time-consuming. By the time I got married, I had broken down and loaded those comics into standard boxes.
Nowadays, though, my collection is much smaller, about 1500 comics. And I got tired of hunting through boxes stacked in my small closet (you have to get down on all fours, pull out the top four boxes on top and then access the bottom boxes, if the comic you want is located there). So I picked up a set of wooden bookshelves at a local flea market, and added reinforcing hardware and supports on the shelves. Then I loaded most (but unfortunately not all) of my comics onto those shelves, standing vertically. That way I don't have to flip stacks, and spine roll isn't a potential threat. The boards in the bags help keep them straight, and the solid ends keep the books upright. The comics are easily available; just reach and pull (an upcoming project is to create tabs so I can alphabetize the books and more readily search through them). An added benefit: this bookshelf is fairly deep, which allows me to prop some comics up at the front. So now it serves not only to store comics, it also becomes a display shelf:
Through the years, I've been pretty lucky. These storage techniques have worked well at keeping my collection intact. I haven't had a shelf collapse or water leak; the worst I've dealt with have been cat attacks on the long boxes (and on the occasional loose book). Knock on wood...
What means have you used to store and display your comics? Any unique ideas that the rest of us might imitate? Perhaps you are one of those fortunate enough to have an acual 'spinner rack'. Have your books stayed safe, or have you had any 'storage issues' that caused problems? Let's hear your stories...
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I evolved from stacking my comics to filing them upright on a bookshelf to bags/boards/boxes. Now -- I don't have them anymore!
During the "stacking phase", young Doug was also known to transport books back and forth to friends' homes in a paper grocery sack. Spine rolls and dog ears? Imminent.
During the "filing on a bookshelf phase", the absence of bags/boards created muddy front and back covers, particularly if the facing cover was white and in contact with a heavily colored neighboring book. As I went about selling my comics a few years ago there was much lament for this childhood practice.
Once I went to the more civilized form of storage, things settled down greatly in the condition dept. However, I noticed, as many of you have, that bags really do have a limited lifespan. Yellowing, wrinkling, etc. can occur and bags really should be switched out every several years. Expensive, yes, but probably prudent. At the height of my collection, I believe I had 13 longboxes (if I had everything I'd ever purchased and not sold/lost at some point, the "Doug's total collection" would have probably fit in 18-19 longboxes), plus around 300 tpbs/hardcovers. Now only the books remain, and those have been pared a bit as new ones are added.
Good topic - always like to hear how others manage this "love"!
Doug
I bought Captain America # 74 (Golden Age) for like $15 when I was 14 years old from a guy who advertised back issues in the comic books. He didn't have Cap, after all, so he sends me Avengers 2 and Hulk 6 (his choice of alternates). I open the bag containing Avengers 2 (at least a solid Fine condition) and (you know where I am going!!!) the scotch tape grabs the front cover!!! I am getting sick as I write this which typically happens when I remember this. Excuse me while I go puke...
Now I just do Mylar bags and NO tape!
For years I stacked them on a metal shelf too! Choosing between bags and a comic was easy for the kid me. I only got them when I bought a back issue. I would then rob the bag for a more cherished treasure. I think I got the bag and box bug around 1988. I recently completed bag&boarding 28 long boxes and 14 short boxes. It was a labor of love (there was a lot of reading going on!). The books I intend to keep until I'm ashes I put in mylar. I plan to get a legal size file cabinet to keep them in. You can get two rows side by side with a foam core divider. I think a four drawer cabinet will hold 800-900 books. I've watched many videos of collectors that build cabinets with drawer glides and plexiglass fronts. They seem cool too. I suppose it depends on where they will live.
A dehumidifier has always been a necessity - I'd add that.
Doug
Great topic.., I've re-engaged my Bronze and Silver Age collecting over the last few years. I'm up to 6 (or 7) short boxes again, having rid myself of those long ones several years ago, shorts are of course much easier to handle and lift.
I'm kinda different as to 'slab-and-bagging'.. I actually tend to put the cardboard in the MIDDLE of the comic, to keep the integrity of the comic fold (where the staple comes in..)to help reduce the 'flattening' of old books. Probably silly and pointless, but it also helps when I pull one out to read and it keeps the spine unstressed with handling.
I also replace my bags every decade or so; I know I should do more, but looking at some bagged 15yrs ago still look just fine to me.
Agreed with Doug on the dehumidifier, luckily I have 'em all in my upstairs 'library' (yes, with the 50some Joes, Major Matt Masons, my Hank Pym shrine and Captain Action stuff..), so I'm not too concerned about humidity until summer comes.
I've labeled some of the boxes with DC/Marvel titles.., but will have to do some changing again as I fill more Silver Age holes, and ramp up my DC collection.
Yeah, I was always a stacker myself. I never got into the bagging and boarding thing, except for the comics I bought from Comic Book Stores, which came boarded and bagged. I guess I should break down and get boards/bags for ALL my comics one of these days.
Of course, I'm much better than I was as a kid; I had comics strewn all over the floor, rolled up in my pockets ... I shudder to think about it.
Doug- I'm smiling, picturing you with a grocery sack full of comics, balanced on a bicycle...I stuck comics in a backpack for travelling, or in my suitcase on family trips...
Charlie- ouch, your story is almost physically painful! Did that Avengers book suffer much, and do you still have it?
Luther- man, you have a bunch of books! That filing cabinet is a good idea. Also good protection.
David_b- your technique of slipping the board inside the comic intrigues me. I've always put the board in between two comics in one bag (saves bags that way). No problem with the board leaving a crease, I take it?
Thanks for the question Redartz.
Nope, no issue at all, it holds the comic in place better inside the baggie (which is typically not an issue..), but if you look at comics from the top or bottom edge into the comic, there's always a slight roundness to the fold along the left edge of the comic where it's folded. I'm just trying to keep that integrity. There's no additional creasing that happens.
I'm obviously just referring to normal, non-annual comics that have the staples protruding into the book at the fold, not the denser comics that are stapled 'down' into the comic as it lays flat, as you have with annuals, giant-sized, DC 100-pagers, etc..
Again, it doesn't do much in the long run, but 1) it allows me to see both the front and back covers while in the bag, and 2) when I'm holding the comic for casual perusal in one hand, it helps keep the binding stiffer in case I drop it or something happens.., reducing chances of adding additional/accidental creasing. :)
Traditional bags, boards 'n' boxes here with Mylar reserved for only the nice uns. Currently working to get the garage in a fit enough state to store my various collections. When that work is done my oldest (9 yr old) daughter can have the (wo)man cave for herself.
FWIW comicbookdb tells me that I have 9,176 comics. A list can be found via the collection name 'Starcrossed' on the comicbookdb site. In reality the total is more than that.
Most of my comics are now in short rather than long boxes - a lesson learnt through several tedious house moves.
I love hearing collection stories, great topic!
I have some long boxes and some short boxes. I like the short ones much better as they stack in the closet much easier, and they don't kill my back hauling them around.
My dream would be to have a custom file cabinet with right-sized wooden drawers to open and easily flip through the comics - but for now the white boxes will have to suffice.
I bag and board most of my comics, but I do something a little strange - I put the comic in the bag upside down so the logo is toward the bottom of the bag. I tape the bag and I then file the comics upright. I find that this reduces the bags loosening as I flip through them and tape being pulled off. When I open a comic, I always roll the flap and secure the tape because as a youngster I ruined too many comics doing what CH47 described.
I have a handful of cgc comics stored in a box sized for those, but those are only a few particularly sentimental books.
Hi Gents,
I basically have had to start downsizing to some degree so I figured if it wasn't worth keeping in Mylar, then I would part ways with that comic.
I too just keep everything in long / short boxes in a closet in the guest room and it is a pain to dig them out e.g., when this blog excites me to read something. Something ironic about pain before pleasure?
I do display some comics in a tri-fold stand. You can show 4 comics in each vertical stand and there are 3 stands. SO it can display as a "wall" or as a "triangle." Each stand is 5' tall by 1' wide and nicely trimmed in black with "windows" in which the comics fit. Google "tri-fold comic book display." It can hold slabbed.
I do have the Avengers #2, from when I received alternate comics for CA #74. The tape lifted off some of the yellow in the middle of the book but did not damage the paper. (I'm starting to cry again, hold on...) Funny thing was, given the pre-digital age of 1974 when I bought this, I had NO idea what Cap #74, Avengers #2, or Hulk 6 looked like! Dare I say it was not until the Gerber Photo Journal Guide Books came out in 1995 that we could see all the covers??? They still sell on Amazon! Every home should have them!
May I ask a question of this venerable crowd? (I do indeed value your insight and it was good to find this blog and know I was not alone!)
Where would you file Amazing Spiderman, Peter Parker, and Web of Spiderman??? Under A, P, and W respectively? All under A for Amazing Spiderman? All under S for Spiderman?
I have this mild dilemma too for Batman (Detective or Batman?) Superman (Action or Super?).
Also, I break up into their own groups in the long boxes:
- Marvel
- DC
- 60s-70s Other non-humerous (e.g., Atlas, Dell, The Fly, Capt Atom)
- 80s to today Other non-humerous (e.g. 80s Airboy from Eclipse, 90s Valiant, Image)
- Golden Age
- Harvey and Fun Stuff (Sad Sack, Hot Stuff, Richie Rich)
FYI a Dell Woody Woodpecker goes with Dell not Fun Stuff.
FYI the 1970s reprints of Charleston Cpt Atom is filed with 60s-70s other non-humerous next to Cpt Atom, not under Modern Comics.
SHeesh - where do I put the "Big Little Books???"
HELP! Maybe I make this too complicated?
I defer to Overstreet and comic price guide for what to call a title, Amazing Spiderman, Incredible Hulk, etc. That way I can follow along in the same order when going thru my collection. Another great site is comicbookrealm.com. You can set up "piles" for different groups, like Marvel Bronze. And its free!
David_b- Many thanks for the further details!
Colin Bray and Luther- so, the sites you mentioned, are they avenues for cataloging your collection, then? I'm interested in hearing what means everyone uses to keep track. I have been using Comic Collector Live, but my sub expired and I'm just keeping a list of recent acquisitions on an Excel spreadsheet. What do you all recommend?
Marti- novel way to bag your books! I'm paranoid about tape, though...
Charlie- that tri- fold stand you describe is a novelty to me. Was it designed specifically for comics or did you adapt it?
And regarding your question, I'm with Luther. I file alphabetically by official title. Each company is separate, with a final section of miscellany. You sound like you have pretty eclectic tastes; love it...
I have been reading, but not commenting these last two weeks, but I've got a few minutes now! Oh, my poor neglected collection! Once my comics outgrew the stationery box I had been keeping them in, I had to get more boxes, and I took a tip from The Answer Man! I would put five comics into a food storage bag, and fold over the excess. Special books got their own regulation comic-book plastic sleeve! As I shifted them into long boxes, I gradually started putting them all into comic bags, but two per bag! (Yes, I'm a cheap bastard.) The greater part of my collection is still stored this way. I've got 12 long boxes halfway up the attic stairs. My house was built in the 1890s, and among the curious architectural features is a cube-shaped recess off the landing on the attic stairs. The dimensions of this recess are: 1 long box deep x 3 long boxes wide x 4 (and a bit) long boxes tall! My active collecting years are summer of '76 thru about 6 months into the post-Crisis era. They are in alphabetical order. One long box is given over to mini-series'. Most anything obtained in the intervening decades is fortunate to be filed. I have a few piles of miscellany on top of these boxes. The exceptions are the things that are special! One short box dedicated to Cerebus the Aardvark. (I don't even remember if they are all bagged or not! I've got reprints of the first 20 issues, and all the rest of the run, but I stopped reading it somewhere in the 200s!) Legion of Superheroes! They get their own box. I'll still hunt for and buy stray issues of Superboy and Adventure that I can afford. No Five Years Later, or anything after that. Justice Society of America! The earth- 2 box. Every JSA appearance (except the first JLA/JSA meeting)up until the 6th, or so issue of JSA. Both the Legion box and JSA box have comics that are individually boarded and bagged. One of these days, I'll find time to play with my comics again!
Luther, I'm amazed at what you've done! David, I love the idea of putting the board in the middle,especially for the Dollar Comics with the wrap-around covers! Colin and Red, thanks for the tip on cataloging thru a website. I still use 3x5 index cards! Each card has five rows with ten numbers on each row. At the top left is the title. Top center is which 50 issue run the card represents, (ie. 51-100, 201-250, etc.) Top right has the number of total books I have from this cards run. In pencil. On the original cards I was erasing the total, and writing the new total every month!
Hi Red,
The trifold I bought at a comic book shop in LaGrange, IL. I learned that it was made in Michigan. But if you google "comic book trifold display stand" you'll see pictures, dealers, etc.
It's a pretty neat way to display comics. I have it next to my PC in a triangular shape. I rotate it every few months to get a different view. It also holds slabbed comics (I don't own many but they fit perfectly).
Hmmm.. the problem with using overstreet alphabetizing is that when I (admittedly rarely) want to read a story arc, if they cross over to different titles then I have to hunt for them in different boxes vs being next to each other. But this is more of a 90s and onward thing, I think. Decisions, decisions...
Red - comicbookdb was compiled through volunteer effort and is free. Any user can set up their own personal catalog in the cloud. I find it invaluable.
Charlie - I file comics in strict title order. I agree it isn't perfect but sadly no filing system is. Incidentally, I have three filing sequences - Marvel, DC and Other Publishers, and each of these is broken down to 'Read' and 'Unread'
Just one other observation - collecting seems to bring out my materialistic side, counting how many issues, expending resources etc. That's actually something that makes me uneasy about the hobby. I have actually committed myself to a five year break from collecting to focus on catching up with my reading...
Why don't comic bags just have a ziplock?? No need for tape, and the bag would be airtight and moisture resistant.
I actually do have giant ziplock bags for my Marvel Treasury editions, which fit really nicely; but haven't found any in regular comic size yet.
Charlie Horse 47 said... "Where would you file Amazing Spiderman, Peter Parker, and Web of Spiderman??? Under A, P, and W respectively? All under A for Amazing Spiderman? All under S for Spiderman?"
Imagine needing to file modern day comics ... How many times have all the major titles been rebooted? Who could possibly keep track of the issue-by-issue chronology of Spidey, the FF and Hulk for example?
Not only that, but there must be at least 20 different versions of Spider-Man out there now -- Manga Spidey, Doc Ock Spidey, Mile Morales Spidey, Ultimate Spidey, etc etc
Charlie Horse.., that Lagrange comic shop was probably the same place I bought those dozen Silver Age DC comics (Superboy, Worlds Finest, Supergirl..), all near mint, for like 60% off.
I mentioned this story here a few weeks ago, my wife visited a yarn shop just down the street a bit.
Too cool.
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