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Saturday, June 3, 2017

Be Our Guest Writer: A Comic Book By Any Other Name (or Number)!

Martinex1: Our friend and frequent commenter Dr. Osvaldo Oyola has prepared something very special for BitBA with a great guest post full of posits and inquiries.  So we will take an educated stance and get out of the way and let Dr. O lead the discussion today!

Dr. Oyola:  In March of this year I wrote a post on my blog The Middle Spaces exploring what I called “The Pleasure of the Serial Comic Book,” through the lens of legendary French literary critic Roland Barthes and his seminal work The Pleasure of the Text. While I leave it to Back in the Bronze Age readers to decide for themselves if they want to read that, there were some questions that arose from my exploration that I thought the regulars and other erstwhile commenters on this blog might help me find some possible answers for:

1)      Did your expectations about the length of a series shape your comics reading and buying habits?

2)      How did the fact that you were coming into a series that may have started years—if not a decade or more—before you got into comics shape those expectations, if at all?

As most of you probably know, either through direct experience or through the grapevine, comic book series at the Big Two these days don’t tend to last very long. This is especially true at Marvel, where they re-boot and/or re-number a series with little to no reason. The most egregious recent example I can think of was the re-starting of Chip Zdarsky and Joe Quinones’s Howard the Duck as a result of the latest iteration of Marvel’s Secret Wars, even though Howard’s series didn’t crossover with it, the story was a direct continuation between volumes, the creative team didn’t change, and their initial volume had only reached five issues! Something similar happened to The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl at the same time, and they joked about it on the cover announcing, “Only our second #1 so far this year!”



In what we call the Bronze Age of comics, however, this was never a problem. All series began with the understanding that they would last as long as they sold well, and some of the staple comic book titles could weather poor sales for a while without fear of cancellation. The continuity of numbering and story held fast even when creative teams were changed or the characters were re-imagined, and sometimes even when the title of the comic itself changed. In the post I referenced above, I use the example of Power Man & Iron Fist, which started out as Luke Cage: Hero for Hire, before becoming Luke Cage, Power Man, and then was named for the duo merged by market forces since they weren’t selling enough on their own. It fascinates me that in order to own a full run of this series you’d need to essentially own three different titled comic books. There are other examples of this of course. Journey into Mystery became The Mighty Thor, named for its main character after featuring him for 43 issues starting with #83 (and then in 1996 switched back to the original title with #503 before being cancelled). For 16 issues in the early 70s, Daredevil: Man Without Fear became Daredevil & Black Widow.
These days the reading practices and buying patterns of Big Two comics aficionados has been greatly shaped by this change from the ongoing series with indefinite end to the assumption that any new series will not only end, but will likely end before it reaches 24 issues. As I noted in my writing, the same creative team sticking with a book for 17 issues is considered noteworthy. The jury is still out about the range of reasons that Marvel (in particular) is suffering through a sales slump, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that readers, rather than seeing the proliferation of new #1 issues as an ideal place to jump on, see the end of a series they are currently following as a place to drop off. Others, when discovering they have missed an issue of a new series, might decide to wait until the next reboot or for the collected trade, thus giving up on buying individual issues. There is also the possibility of what some sellers call “event fatigue,” wherein the reliance on the “Event” comic series and its countless crossover and tie-in issues leads to a significant drop in sales that cancels out whatever degree these events might draw readers compelled by the series’ premise. I have said it before, and I will say it again, the current marketing approach of the Big Two is a classic example of diminishing returns. You can only go back to the well so many times claiming to be “All- New” and “All- Different” and that a new #1 is a “collector’s item” before it stops working.


While the common wisdom seems to be that contemporary readers feel alienated by high issue numbers, and no one wants to jump on a series ranging beyond the single digits, I remember a time when comics readers had little choice to do otherwise. By the time I had the inclination and possibility of enough money to get Uncanny X-Men on the regular (for example), the series was already in the 160s. I started on Power Man & Iron Fist when it’d reached issues in the 80s range. My first issue of Rom Spaceknight was #21, but I didn’t buy it regularly until 10 issues later. Furthermore, the inability to guarantee that I would be able to find each issue of a series I was following each month also shaped how I read comics then. As much as I would have loved complete runs of comics, I understood gaps in a series to just be par for the course. Part of the experience of reading a superhero comic serial was filling the gaps using my imagination.

Rumor has it that Marvel plans to reintroduce “legacy numbering” to its core titles, like Avengers and Amazing Spider-Man. This is something they have done intermittently in past, as when the total number of issues across volumes hits a milestone (this was done for books like Amazing Spider-Man when it hit #500, Fantastic Four when it #600, and She-Hulk when it hit 100 issues over four different volumes), though whether the legacy numbering stuck seems to have been arbitrary (it did for the former two example titles, but didn’t for She-Hulk). However, this new development seems counter to the thinking that has been in place for the last decade or so, that you can’t attract new readers with high issue numbers, so it seems like another gimmick to temporarily juice sales. Ultimately, however, I think the horses have left the barn, and returning to legacy numbering won’t bring back a significant number of older readers (which is a limited pool to target anyway). Many of us old-timers may not like contemporary cape comics, but to try to shape the books to appeal to us seems like a losing proposition. We are a dwindling population.

All of this is a somewhat over-long contextualizing to the questions I posed above and to elaborate on below. I am hoping the Bronze Age comics readers who cut their teeth on getting monthly (or bi-monthly) books at the newsstand, drugstore or grocery will be willing to think back and share their own experiences with long-term comic book serials.

Given that most of the series of that era we all hold dear had reached high numbers by the time most of us here got around to starting to read them, how did you decide to start a series?

Did the issue number influence your purchase at all? Did the realization that you may never get to read the earlier issues of the series influence your choices?

How did you get your news about upcoming changes to your favorite series? Did you just discover them on the stand? Word of mouth? Bullpen Bulletins? Some other way?

How did you handle missing an issue? Did you stop reading? Simply skip it? Do everything in your power to find the missing issue? Trade with a friend? Borrow it? What if you couldn’t find it?

For my own part, since I knew nothing different, I never considered not starting a series because its numbers were in the high one hundreds or even higher (ASM was past #200 when I started on it). If anything, one aspect of the unified numbering over time regardless of creative team or current imagining of the character, was an easy gauge by which to compare with other readers, in terms of the length of their immersion in the hobby and the depth of their potential comic knowledge. I am not arguing that such “bragging rights” are a reason that legacy numbering is a good thing (if anything, when I was a kid that kind of thing led to bullying and bad feelings), but there is something about being able to count yourself as part of an ongoing and evolving fan tradition, established through a range of numbers defining “your time.”

I never imagined back then that a series would end soon, as I felt completely alienated from the business side of comics and what drove those decisions. If anything, a high issue number seemed like an indication the title would be around for a long time, while a low number newer series seemed less likely to catch on. This seemed the case when I’d find back issues at flea markets and yard sales that were part of series that had been discontinued before my time, like The Champions and The Human Fly. None of these series lasted even 20 issues, and some, like Black Goliath, barely lasted five. I might even hold off on a new series to see if it “got good.”

So, have at it. I’d love to read your answers to any or all of the questions above, and if you could include what were your prime collecting years and example of making those kinds of choices to start an established ongoing series or drop one (or have one cancelled on you) and how it shaped your view on what to buy and how to read, that’d be awesome!

I am hoping we can develop a conversation about this and to ask some follow-up questions in the comments.

Final Note: Even though I opened this post with a description of contemporary comics, I am hoping that this does not become just an excuse to bash Marvel and DC and current books. I included it as a point of comparison, as someone still buying comic books and very much attuned to various attitudes of other current comics buyers, but who, despite being part of the tail end of Bronze Age comics enthusiasts, was not as plugged into the community of other readers back in the day, and am interested in thinking about attitudes and ideas that shaped collecting and reading practices.

Wednesday, March 22, 2017

Two Questions: Bronze Agers Look at the Modern World...


Redartz:  Greetings, good day and welcome! Today we offer Two Questions for you to ponder, two questions that are, in this case, related. As veterans of that Marvelous (and Distinctly Cool) era known as the Bronze Age, many of our tastes and preferences in popular culture are related to that time. Comics, film, books, music, TV, you name it. As much as we may enjoy the world and its offerings today, there will always be a special fondness for that time. That said, we do live in the modern world, and like any era, it has good points and flaws. Which brings us to our questions for today: 

QUESTION 1:  Name one element of current popular culture that you feel other Bronze Agers would enjoy. Here we get to be optimists; look for that Silver lining!

QUESTION 2: Now the flip side, a chance to indulge the curmudgeon lurking within: Name one element of current popular culture that you find intolerable. 

Once again, to get things started, I'll provide my answers: 

 

1.  Here's a suggestion for a really enjoyable current comic. Indeed, one of very few that I buy with any regularity. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, written by Ryan North and drawn by Erica Henderson. This comic is loads of fun. North and Henderson fill the book with laughs, puns, and fond 'winks' at various superhero  tropes (an example of the humor: Squirrel Girl has ongoing text messages with Tony Stark and Kraven the Hunter). It has the feel of a Bronze Age comic: a lighthearted tone, likeable supporting characters, and even an old-fashioned editorial feel. Like the Marvel Bullpen popped up today to do a book. The clever touches extend even to the bottom borders of each page, where Squirrel Girl (aka Doreen Green) adds a few comments regarding the contents of said page). The book has great art: Erica Henderson has a nice style, not slick but warm and well suited for humor. And the book even has a letters page, with personal comments by Ryan and Erica. I give this book 5 "Bronze Medallions"! Oh, and I love the logo.





 


2.  On the other hand, there is a big facet of current pop culture, specifically music, that I cannot stand: auto-tune. Aaaargh, even the word gives me a headache. I still try to keep up, to some degree, with the modern music scene. Unfortunately it's hard to do so when seeking out only 'real' singers. Perhaps it's just me, but that fake sound just grrraaaates on my ears and nerves. Any time I hear  an auto-tuned song (which is waaay too frequently) I wince and reach for the tuner. Thank heavens for Adele...








Martinex1:   Great questions Red!   Here are my answers that immediately jumped to mind.

1.  As discussed recently, I've enjoyed the explosion of television shows that are dedicated to the iconic super-heroes.   But I have to say that I have particularly enjoyed the various Netflix series for Daredevil, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones.   I just started watching  the latest, Iron Fist, and despite what the critics say I like it so far.   I think Netflix has found a way to incorporate the soap opera aspects of Bronze Age comics into their shows.   There are a lot of subplots, some that don't go anywhere but may just be seeds for future programs.  Episodes unravel like issues building to a major arc's crescendo as the series evolves.  There are plenty of supporting characters and intriguing twists.   And the villains are not portrayed as simply evil creatures, but there are levels to all of their actions.   In many cases the shows lead the watcher to develop an empathy and even sympathy for the bad guys to some degree.  The shows can be violent so they are not family friendly.  And although the characters are slightly modified they really seem to capture the spirit of the comics, the heroes, and the threats.  The Netflix series average around 4 Bronze Medallions for me, which is far better than I expected.

2.  I will keep this simple, I am not a fan of movie remakes - particularly remakes of classic or beloved films.   The recent trend of remaking films or franchises that are just a couple of decades old baffles me.  And when it is a masterpiece being rerouted for a flashier but weaker version, I am mystified.   Whether Willie Wonka or the Magnificent Seven, I think it is a misstep to try to redesign those for the current age.   The new film just cannot live up to the original.   Something like Planet of the Apes is etched in my memory and part of my cultural upbringing, so even though the new versions have interesting aspects I find the mystique woefully missing.   I contend that there are plenty of creative people in the world and there are plenty of untapped science fiction, fantasy, drama, and comic sources available that we don't have to keep going to the same well. I actually don't mind if a film builds on a theme, or pays homage, to previous films , but the bland etching of the same wood seems like a money grab to me.   So to the trend of remaking everything... no thank you.


Redartz: Okay, we've had our say. What say you?  What is pleasing, and painful, about today's culture?

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